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Hardware Unboxed review has the 7900 GRE performing a bit slower than other reviews. Wonder why that is.
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Hardware Unboxed review has the 7900 GRE performing a bit slower than other reviews. Wonder why that is.
Turns out they went with the reference card numbers they had from the earlier China release and not the newer Nitro card.
Also, AMD confirms OC bug in the 7900GRE:
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-limited-oc-of-radeon-rx-7900-gre-is-a-bug-fix-incoming
This.Like silicon area and memory interface has more in common with a GT1030.
Memory seems to be the bottleneck for 7900 GRE. So I guess, memory overclocking will be the key here.Will AMD's suspicious OC bug-fix allow these cards to be potential bargains?
These cards obviously have tons of potential headroom. How much will AMD allow it to be exploited?
Anyways AMD have found a good way to use up 7900 boards without incurring a major loss readying for the introduction of RDNA4.
This was to be assumed based on previous tests, but has not yet been expressed with this clarity (of course it could have already been mentioned at some point, but who wants to listen to hundreds of videos in their entirety just to find this one sentence) . It would be better if this statement were made clearly in every single video review or written down accordingly in the text versions of the hardware unboxed tests on 'TechSpot' .... what we always do – and that is test GPUs at their base spec using reference or Founder Edition models, when possible, and when not possible, we manually clock them to the base spec or load a base spec BIOS.
Source: Hardware Unboxed @ YouTube on February 28, 2024
It is what it is. Doesnt beat the 7900 XT and just slightly beats the 7800XT. If you shop specifically for the just over 500, just under 600 price range then this card might make sense, otherwise it's meh.Will AMD's suspicious OC bug-fix allow these cards to be potential bargains?
These cards obviously have tons of potential headroom. How much will AMD allow it to be exploited?
Anyways AMD have found a good way to use up 7900 boards without incurring a major loss readying for the introduction of RDNA4.
Impressive memory scaling in most games (except for Starfield)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5tbCbm1IYM
1080p Raster | 4060Ti-8G | 4060Ti-16G | 4070 | 4070S | 7700XT | 7800XT | 7900GRE | 7900XT |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
DigitalFoundry | - | - | 78.6% | 90.7% | - | 87.9% | 100% | 112.6% |
KitGuru | 65.7% | - | 88.2% | 100.6% | 77.1% | 92.6% | 100% | 119.1% |
PCGH | 64.4% | 66.1% | 87.4% | 100.5% | - | 92.6% | 100% | 119.7% |
PurePC | - | - | 86.3% | 100.9% | - | 89.2% | 100% | 117.2% |
Quasarzone | - | - | 88.3% | 98.9% | - | 92.1% | 100% | 115.7% |
SweClockers | 72.1% | - | 91.9% | 101.5% | 82.4% | 92.6% | 100% | 108.1% |
TechPowerUp | 67% | 68% | 87% | 99% | 79% | 91% | 100% | 113% |
TechSpot | - | 70.3% | 87.6% | 100.7% | 79.3% | 94.5% | 100% | 116.6% |
Tom's HW | - | 72.2% | 89.7% | 101.4% | 81.8% | 93.3% | 100% | 111.2% |
Tweakers | 68.2% | - | 86.9% | 96.9% | 77.9% | 91.1% | 100% | 112.9% |
avg 1080p Raster | - | ~70% | 88.5% | 100.7% | ~81% | 93.2% | 100% | 116.8% |
1440p Raster | 4060Ti-8G | 4060Ti-16G | 4070 | 4070S | 7700XT | 7800XT | 7900GRE | 7900XT |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
ComputerBase | 64.5% | - | 87.6% | 102.1% | 77.4% | 92.5% | 100% | 122.1% |
DigitalFoundry | - | - | 78.0% | 89.2% | - | 88.4% | 100% | 115.8% |
Hardware & Co | - | - | 90.0% | - | - | 98.0% | 100% | 121.6% |
KitGuru | 63.0% | - | 86.5% | 99.6% | 76.4% | 92.4% | 100% | 121.3% |
PCGH | 62.0% | 63.7% | 85.8% | 99.3% | - | 91.1% | 100% | 120.0% |
PurePC | - | - | 83.9% | 98.9% | - | 89.8% | 100% | 119.5% |
Quasarzone | - | - | 82.6% | 95.9% | - | 90.7% | 100% | 117.0% |
SweClockers | 62.5% | - | 82.9% | 96.1% | 75.7% | 88.8% | 100% | 114.5% |
TechPowerUp | 64% | 64% | 85% | 98% | 77% | 91% | 100% | 117% |
TechSpot | - | 67.6% | 86.7% | 102.9% | 79.0% | 94.3% | 100% | 121.0% |
Tom's HW | - | 65.3% | 85.8% | 98.8% | 79.2% | 92.4% | 100% | 115.0% |
Tweakers | 66.0% | - | 86.0% | 97.6% | 75.9% | 89.9% | 100% | 116.4% |
avg 1440p Raster | - | ~66% | 86.1% | 99.8% | ~78% | 92.5% | 100% | 120.0% |
2160p Raster | 4060Ti-8G | 4060Ti-16G | 4070 | 4070S | 7700XT | 7800XT | 7900GRE | 7900XT |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
DigitalFoundry | - | - | 79.8% | 91.6% | - | 89.1% | 100% | 117.6% |
Hardware & Co | - | - | 87.7% | - | - | 98.3% | 100% | 124.3% |
KitGuru | 58.6% | - | 85.2% | 98.3% | 74.8% | 92.1% | 100% | 122.9% |
PCGH | 61.8% | 64.0% | 87.1% | 101.5% | - | 94.6% | 100% | 120.8% |
PurePC | - | - | 83.5% | 98.2% | - | 90.5% | 100% | 121.5% |
Quasarzone | - | - | 81.3% | 96.2% | - | 90.3% | 100% | 118.5% |
SweClockers | 61.3% | - | 82.7% | 95.3% | 74.0% | 89.3% | 100% | 120.0% |
TechPowerUp | 56% | 62% | 84% | 97% | 74% | 91% | 100% | 119% |
TechSpot | - | 65.0% | 83.3% | 100.0% | 78.3% | 95.0% | 100% | 125.0% |
Tom's HW | - | 62.7% | 84.9% | 99.5% | 76.4% | 92.9% | 100% | 120.3% |
Tweakers | 62.1% | - | 84.8% | 96.6% | 73.8% | 89.2% | 100% | 118.2% |
avg 2160p Raster | - | ~63% | 85.3% | 99.5% | ~77% | 93.3% | 100% | 122.2% |
1440p RayTr. | 4060Ti-8G | 4060Ti-16G | 4070 | 4070S | 7700XT | 7800XT | 7900GRE | 7900XT |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
ComputerBase | 68.8% | - | 113.4% | 133.8% | 76.3% | 92.3% | 100% | 121.1% |
DigitalFoundry | - | - | 102.8% | 119.6% | - | 87.4% | 100% | 115.0% |
Hardware & Co | - | - | 109.6% | - | - | 97.3% | 100% | 122.9% |
KitGuru | 78.1% | - | 113.2% | 131.9% | 75.5% | 89.6% | 100% | 121.7% |
PCGH | 83.0% | 90.1% | 118.6% | 139.3% | - | 91.0% | 100% | 121.4% |
PurePC | - | - | 112.5% | 134.2% | - | 88.4% | 100% | 116.2% |
Quasarzone | - | - | 108.1% | 126.1% | - | 90.1% | 100% | 118.1% |
SweClockers | 83.7% | - | 114.9% | 135.2% | 73.8% | 85.7% | 100% | 117.2% |
TechPowerUp | 67% | 83% | 110% | 125% | 77% | 91% | 100% | 116% |
TechSpot | 70.9% | 94.5% | 120.0% | 138.2% | 67.3% | 90.9% | 100% | 120.0% |
Tom's HW | - | 85.9% | 116.3% | 135.8% | 78.0% | 90.1% | 100% | 118.9% |
Tweakers | 80.1% | - | 105.8% | 121.2% | 78.5% | 90.6% | 100% | 117.9% |
avg 1440p RayTracing | - | ~87% | 114.4% | 133.0% | ~76% | 91.7% | 100% | 120.6% |
At a glance | 4060Ti-16G | 4070 | 4070S | 7700XT | 7800XT | 7900GRE | 7900XT |
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Gen & Mem | Ada 16GB | Ada 12GB | Ada 12GB | RDNA3 12GB | RDNA3 16GB | RDNA3 16GB | RDNA3 20GB |
avg 1080p Raster | ~70% | 88.5% | 100.7% | ~81% | 93.2% | 100% | 116.8% |
avg 1440p Raster | ~66% | 86.1% | 99.8% | ~78% | 92.5% | 100% | 120.0% |
avg 2160p Raster | ~63% | 85.3% | 99.5% | ~77% | 93.3% | 100% | 122.2% |
avg 1440p RayTr. | ~87% | 114.4% | 133.0% | ~76% | 91.7% | 100% | 120.6% |
TDP | 165W | 200W | 220W | 245W | 263W | 260W | 315W |
real Power Draw | ~160W | 193W | 221W | 229W | 250W | ~255W | 309W |
Energy Efficiency (1440p Raster) | 105% | 114% | 115% | 87% | 94% | 100% | 99% |
MSRP | $499 | $549 | $599 | $419 | $499 | $549 | $899 |
Retail DE | 449€ | 539€ | 609€ | 419€ | 522€ | 576€ | 719€ |
Perf/Price DE: 1440p Raster | 84% | 92% | 94% | 108% | 102% | 100% | 96% |
Perf/Price DE: 1440p RayTracing | 111% | 122% | 126% | 105% | 101% | 100% | 97% |
Retail US | $440 | $525 | $590 | $400 | $490 | $550 | $700 |
Perf/Price US: 1440p Raster | 82% | 90% | 93% | 108% | 104% | 100% | 94% |
Perf/Price US: 1440p RayTracing | 108% | 120% | 124% | 105% | 103% | 100% | 95% |
7900 gre vs 4070:
Overall, the RTX 4070 outperforms the RX 7900 GRE in the ray tracing games by 10–13 percent, while the RX 7900 GRE outperforms the RTX 4070 by 5–17 percent in rasterization-only titles.
There are a few outliers worth mentioning. Borderlands 3 as usual heavily favors AMD GPUs and is a whopping 36% faster on the RX 7900 GRE at 1440p ultra. Borderlands 3 is an AMD-sponsored game, and it has always favored AMD GPUs. The same can also be said of Far Cry 6 (21%), Red Dead Redemption 2 (20%), and Watch Dogs Legion (27%) as well, with only Far Cry 6 being AMD promoted while Watch Dogs Legion was Nvidia promoted.
On the flipped side, Nvidia and the 4070 claim a massive lead in Minecraft, with a 54% lead — and we've seen similar results in other games that use full path tracing, like Cyberpunk 2077 and Alan Wake 2. The latter as an example ran at 52 fps on the 4070 at 1080p with maxed out settings, including Quality mode upscaling, while the 7900 GRE only managed 29 fps (using FSR2 upscaling).
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...eoff-which-mainstream-graphics-card-is-better
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That title really favors nvidia from what I’ve seen. There are plenty of benchmarks I’ve seen comparing the two but it will be interesting to hear your take on the two.I just got the RTX 4070 TI Super and my son go this RX 7900 GRE. I am getting 211 fps minimum and bounces to 285fps in MW3 on my intel i9 on highest settings and since my son is installing his card now, I won't get to compare what he is pulling off till later tonight.
my son is on a lower end amd as wellThat title really favors nvidia from what I’ve seen. There are plenty of benchmarks I’ve seen comparing the two but it will be interesting to hear your take on the two.
Prices will only drop further. Not sure how long you want to wait.maybe someone else with a suggestion and advice? i assume sapphire rx 7800gre pulse ok graphics? here at my place they are around 625 euros, and more, I don't know if the prices will drop further
rtx 4070 super are 680euros and more
I think I'll wait then, the new amd rx8000 should come out this year, I'm just looking.Prices will only drop further. Not sure how long you want to wait.
Top RDNA 4 card should have raster of 7900 xt & RT of 7900 xtx / 4070 ti. Price should be in same range as 7900 gre !! (I expect it to be released along with FSR 4. But thats just a guess)
There was a newegg rebate in USA recently.I'm just looking at the prices in your microcenter, they're mostly MSRP or a little more, and the cheapest sapphire pulse gaming here is 623 euros, if it was close to the MSRP price, I'd buy it right away, but this way it's too much
Here in our country the tax is 25%, I don't even know if the price will fall or maybe even rise
What do you think, should I buy sapphire rx 7900gre for 623 euros or not?
Answering your question, German trends indicate that AMD sales have started to fallI'm just looking at the prices in your microcenter, they're mostly MSRP or a little more, and the cheapest sapphire pulse gaming here is 623 euros, if it was close to the MSRP price, I'd buy it right away, but this way it's too much
Here in our country the tax is 25%, I don't even know if the price will fall or maybe even rise
What do you think, should I buy sapphire rx 7900gre for 623 euros or not?
Atleast wait till computex in June, to see future plans of nvidia & AMDshould I buy
RDNA4 won't have a top end card, highest will be Navi 48. Rumored to be around 7900 XT performance.Atleast wait till computex in June, to see future plans of nvidia & AMD
AMD would launch zen 5 in June, but they might also tease RDNA 4 & timeline of the same