That's not difficult seeing as Windows isn't trustworthy at all.I like windows 11 and Linux, they both have there pluses and minuses. If you ask me which one I trust the most, hands down Linux.
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That's not difficult seeing as Windows isn't trustworthy at all.I like windows 11 and Linux, they both have there pluses and minuses. If you ask me which one I trust the most, hands down Linux.
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right? no one trusts windows. My parents tape over their laptop webcams cuz they don't trust anything lol. I only trust microsoft to have their best interests at heart and i am just a consumer.That's not difficult seeing as Windows isn't trustworthy at all.
There's a picture of Mark Zuckerberg with tape over his webcam ... if that tells you anything.right? no one trusts windows. My parents tape over their laptop webcams cuz they don't trust anything lol. I only trust microsoft to have their best interests at heart and i am just a consumer.
Except in Insider Builds which is like one step away from being in released builds.
I ditched HP after my printers kept have mysterious firmware permafailures exactly 1 month after the warranty expired. Hmm... Also got tired of the games I had to play to use non-OEM ink - scam.Fucking HP, That is a driver thing the bastards have an update utility that runs in the background and when it checks for updates it will auto-add it as part of the drivers like it is missing.
Tired of looking at his own face?There's a picture of Mark Zuckerberg with tape over his webcam ... if that tells you anything.
GIMP 2.0 is an open source application that works well for photo editing. It's clunkier to use than Adobe Photoshop, but you can do just as many things as it can. It works on Windows, as well.No Adobe applications so forget about photo editing.
Windows is not alone in lack of trust.thats not just a windows thing. half the teachers here have them covered on their macbooks too...
Windows 8 adoption was awful. Never have I needed to install Windows 8 for anyone. I stuck with Windows 7, and anyone who bought a laptop with Windows 8 would ask me to remove it for Windows 7. It was a shit OS.Wow, I heard the same when Windows 8 came out... and yet everyone migrated. ...and then migrated to Windows 10.
You may not want it, but it will be forced onto the majority of people with the next laptop or PC they buy.
GIMP would be my last option. I use Krtia but it still sucks compared to Photoshop. There's Photopea but again not as good.GIMP 2.0 is an open source application that works well for photo editing. It's clunkier to use than Adobe Photoshop, but you can do just as many things as it can. It works on Windows, as well.
Nothings hard to do if you know. Who the hell would know that enabling metered would disable telemetry collection? Put a button that says, "disable all tracking". This is one of the reasons why Windows 8 was so bad. Where's the conveyance of that? What context would explain that this disables telemetry collection? What guarantee is there that this clearly unintentional action will still do the job that it was doing in future updates? These are the four C's of UI design and Microsoft has been breaking them since Windows 8.Or marking your internet connection as metered, as Lakados has mentioned a couple of times. That's hardly "hard to disable".
Again, this is not easy. It's only easy after you know, and if you know you know. A user who didn't use Google or wasn't told this, would have no idea. Again, no conveyance and no context.Although Microsoft is extremely stupid for forcing this on people, it’s easily bypassed (for now). It’s not difficult, though. When the Microsoft sign in page pops up during installation, you enter [email protected] for the email and then enter any password you like and it will throw back an error, allowing you to then make a local account. I’ve done this at least 100 times since Windows 11 was released, including recently. It’s stupid that it’s forced, though.
Alternatively, you can just make a throwaway Microsoft account that you don’t use to sign in with, and then just remove the account from Windows after everything is set up. You’ll need to make a new local account though so you don’t have some weird name for your user profile folder and then delete the one you set the computer up with.
Again, no conveyance and no context. I'm not sure if people here are just white knighting for Microsoft, but these design elements are intentionally made to deter users from doing this. More people need to see this video to understand why Windows 8 was a piece of crap, and why some of these elements are sneaking their way back into Windows 11. Just give people the control and conveyance with proper context to understand what each setting does. Most people would have just made a Microsoft account and be done with it, as Microsoft has intended. Nobody wants to sign in with their Microsoft account to use their PC, because nobody trusts Microsoft.and thats just on home, with pro you can still just hit "domain join" and then create a local account.
thanks, that was my point.Windows is not alone in lack of trust.
if you are installing windows yourself, you should have the knowledge of how to do so. im not sure if you just like reeeeeing about microsoft... nobody is white knighting, only pointing out bullshit, like bringing up win8....Again, no conveyance and no context. I'm not sure if people here are just white knighting for Microsoft,
"obscure" and "hard" are two different things. This setting is obscure, but not hard, because it's literally clicking a button.Nothings hard to do if you know. Who the hell would know that enabling metered would disable telemetry collection?
The functionality of blocking the telemetry and advertising was brought about by Microsoft loosing a lawsuit because their automatic downloads and uploads were causing users to go over the data limits on their Internet plans. So Microsoft agreed to put in a way to declare the connections as metered so it wouldn’t do the automatic things that were destroying data caps.Nothings hard to do if you know. Who the hell would know that enabling metered would disable telemetry collection? Put a button that says, "disable all tracking". This is one of the reasons why Windows 8 was so bad. Where's the conveyance of that? What context would explain that this disables telemetry collection? What guarantee is there that this clearly unintentional action will still do the job that it was doing in future updates? These are the four C's of UI design and Microsoft has been breaking them since Windows 8.
That's strange. I thought you've been claiming how easy it is to just Google things for the last several pages.Again, this is not easy. It's only easy after you know, and if you know you know. A user who didn't use Google or wasn't told this, would have no idea. Again, no conveyance and no context.
It was a joke that you took literally. To be honest, the joke is getting funnier the most you agree to Google.That's strange. I thought you've been claiming how easy it is to just Google things for the last several pages.
Deceptive UI changes is something that should be left in the Windows 98 and OS9 era of computing. Nobody should excuse this practice, no matter how much you think this is common knowledge. This is akin to having the F8 key to get into the boot menu, or in Android phones when holding down volume keys and power to get into the bootloader. These are obscured from normal users to avoid issues. Microsoft is doing the same thing, but not to keep you safe.The context is people within this forum, not the general population. So don't drag me into whatever straw man flavor of the moment you're into again.
You know what I meant. Yes it's obscure."obscure" and "hard" are two different things. This setting is obscure, but not hard, because it's literally clicking a button.
If you have to Google it then it isn't meant to be known. Given that most people who sit down and install Windows 11 from a USB drive aren't your average user, and most likely know about these tricks with Windows 11. These are probably the same people who aren't updating to Windows 11. Why do you think Windows 11 adoption is low?If you want to complain, complain about the right thing. I could agree with you in this case that this *is* obscure. On the other hand, I googled "windows 11 disable telemetry" and the very first result was to a page, complete with lots of pictures, detailing how to do it.
You're getting worse at this with each post.It was a joke that you took literally. To be honest, the joke is getting funnier the most you agree to Google.
I've been a computer enthusiast since windows 3.1, and I never had to resort to outside help to find something in windows until 8 came around. It's the same with 10 and 11, options and functions are constantly moved and shuffled around with each update, for seemingly no reason or logic. I say seemingly because I'm convinced the reason is to make it harder to find certain things, until they can claim: "Nobody uses this, so we are removing the option"The context is people within this forum, not the general population. So don't drag me into whatever straw man flavor of the moment you're into again.
Yes. I’ve never been genuinely annoyed with Windows until they started to arbitrarily move things around. Apple started doing this as well.I've been a computer enthusiast since windows 3.1, and I never had to resort to outside help to find something in windows until 8 came around. It's the same with 10 and 11, options and functions are constantly moved and shuffled around with each update, for seemingly no reason or logic. I say seemingly because I'm convinced the reason is to make it harder to find certain things, until they can claim: "Nobody uses this, so we are removing the option"
Not having a connection on a fresh install of 11 can be considered a benefit to make initial setup easier. ;-)I like the start in the middle, that's the least of what's wrong. Win 11 still can't load my Z790 boards internet connection drivers during a fresh install. That's amazing negligence. They obviously know, they just ignore it. If they ignore something as blatant as intel's latest motherboard basic driver...
I've been a computer enthusiast since windows 3.1, and I never had to resort to outside help to find something in windows until 8 came around. It's the same with 10 and 11, options and functions are constantly moved and shuffled around with each update, for seemingly no reason or logic. I say seemingly because I'm convinced the reason is to make it harder to find certain things, until they can claim: "Nobody uses this, so we are removing the option"
Two things: The era of the yes-man, and the redundant UI designers trying to justify their existence. These tech companies are insanely bloated. Twitter fired 80% of their staff and after minimal problems initially, things have been working as if nothing changed. I bet MS could do the same and their products would actually improve.The fact that they STILL haven't entirely replaced the control panel functionality is really absurd. There are so many places where they just gave up and bounce you to the old settings. Sometimes it's a little link text that opens the old menu, sometimes it's a button... there's probably cases where there's nothing and you get to go find it yourself.
This is one of the worst things about modern Microsoft by far. Their UI work is really just AWFUL in general, and they just can't figure it out.
And don't think other platforms are safe, it's not just desktop. Anyone who's admin'd Office 365 probably feels a cold sweat any time they get a notice that a page in the admin portal has been redesigned, because I guarantee they've literally halved the information density and added more clicks to do the same fucking thing. Why does everything have an gigantic margin drowning in gutter space? Why are there 2 colors on the entire screen? Why is the number of things being displayed in this list literally reduced by 20 items versus the old style?
I used to wonder who is asking for or driving some of these changes, because I'm pretty sure there wasn't an admin on the planet who actually preferred the changes. There's no fucking way they were getting positive feedback outside of some internal designer circlejerk.
Yeah, and it's like every day, they try to make it worse. By presenting more clean-looking non-functional crap. So, we have to carry around the old Control Panel, so people can actually function. I just have no idea why they can't just keep the function and do it in their "new" style if that's what they want. Which, sort of begs the question: Does Microsoft really want you to function? That may sound stupid, but, IMHO, you have to ask the question.The fact that they STILL haven't entirely replaced the control panel functionality is really absurd. There are so many places where they just gave up and bounce you to the old settings. Sometimes it's a little link text that opens the old menu, sometimes it's a button... there's probably cases where there's nothing and you get to go find it yourself.
This is one of the worst things about modern Microsoft by far. Their UI work is really just AWFUL in general, and they just can't figure it out.
Two things: The era of the yes-man, and the redundant UI designers trying to justify their existence. These tech companies are insanely bloated. Twitter fired 80% of their staff and after minimal problems initially, things have been working as if nothing changed. I bet MS could do the same and their products would actually improve.
Yeah, and it's like every day, they try to make it worse. By presenting more clean-looking non-functional crap. So, we have to carry around the old Control Panel, so people can actually function. I just have no idea why they can't just keep the function and do it in their "new" style if that's what they want. Which, sort of begs the question: Does Microsoft really want you to function? That may sound stupid, but, IMHO, you have to ask the question.
Yeah, but not due to any technical reasons, but because of Musk's ego. He is not very advertiser friendly.I mean, Twitter is not exactly doing well as a company after its changes, but some of it probably comes from their sheer size.
I switched to Affinity Photo when Adobe went to the subscription model. At the time it was on sale and at $25 it was an easy purchase. It really does everyI ditched HP after my printers kept have mysterious firmware permafailures exactly 1 month after the warranty expired. Hmm... Also got tired of the games I had to play to use non-OEM ink - scam.
Bought a Brother multifunction laser printer years ago and have never looked back... Still going strong. Toner less expensive than HP non-OEM ink refills and lasts 3-4x as long. HP can suckit!
Tired of looking at his own face?
GIMP 2.0 is an open source application that works well for photo editing. It's clunkier to use than Adobe Photoshop, but you can do just as many things as it can. It works on Windows, as well.
His "ego" has nothing to do with it. Twitter has almost never been profitable. 2017 and 2019 were its only profitable years. Elon Musk has nothing to do with Twitter's revenue.Yeah, but not due to any technical reasons, but because of Musk's ego. He is not very advertiser friendly.
The sound settings is one of them. If you want to actually make changes to how sound works in Windows, you need to figure out the right mouse button clicks to get back to it. Same goes for networking settings.The fact that they STILL haven't entirely replaced the control panel functionality is really absurd. There are so many places where they just gave up and bounce you to the old settings. Sometimes it's a little link text that opens the old menu, sometimes it's a button... there's probably cases where there's nothing and you get to go find it yourself.
Their UI changes aren't because they can't figure it out, but designed so you don't figure it out. They don't want users to know how to make changes.This is one of the worst things about modern Microsoft by far. Their UI work is really just AWFUL in general, and they just can't figure it out.
So why do you think Windows 11 adoption is low? You seem to disagree with the things I don't like about Windows 11, so I'd like to know why you think Windows 11 has slow adoption? I have my reasons.You're getting worse at this with each post.
So why do you think Windows 11 adoption is low? You seem to disagree with the things I don't like about Windows 11, so I'd like to know why you think Windows 11 has slow adoption? I have my reasons.
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The facts disagree with you there, his takeover literally caused a mass exodus of advertisers. Ad revenue has been down 50% since he took over. Twitter used to be not profitable due to being bloated, now it is not profitable because the ad money dried up.His "ego" has nothing to do with it. Twitter has almost never been profitable. 2017 and 2019 were its only profitable years. Elon Musk has nothing to do with Twitter's revenue.
I've always similarly downloaded the W10 ISO from Microsoft's site. At a certain point they just changed it so the drop-down menus to select the ISO were only accessible if the user agent was a phone (bizarrely) so you can just use the browser inspector to change what it reports itself as.Interesting fact I came across the other day. Win 11 can be downloaded straight from MS' website in ISO format. Win10 requries the media creation tool to make a iso or installer drive.
That "trick" no longer works on the latest version. It won't let you past that point in the installer without an internet connection. Unless you know the secret workaround, which involves bringing up the command line during install.Not having a connection on a fresh install of 11 can be considered a benefit to make initial setup easier. ;-)
only home has that restriction.That "trick" no longer works on the latest version. It won't let you past that point in the installer without an internet connection. Unless you know the secret workaround, which involves bringing up the command line during install.
That's one reason. But it would be foolish to believe that the majority of whom has not yet adopted 11 yet are on "incompatible" HW.Because they arbitrarily cut off a massive amount of compatible hardware. People literally can't upgrade to Windows 11 like they could with 10, so they can't adopt it. Why do you randomly reply with things that the person you're replying to wasn't talking about? It's like your native form of communication is straw man arguments. It's bizarre.
False, I installed Professional recently, it has it too now.only home has that restriction.
wrong. i did two machines with pro and one with edu last friday, both worked fine this way. you click domain join, i dont have internet/account details, and continue anyways.False, I installed Professional recently, it has it too now.
I think you are talking about skipping the login with a Microsoft Account bit, not the set up a network bit. How do you join a domain if there is no network connection?wrong. i did two machines with pro and one with edu last friday, both worked fine this way. you click domain join, i dont have internet/account details, and continue anyways.
you dont, but thats how you complete setup without internet.I think you are talking about skipping the login with a Microsoft Account bit, not the set up a network bit. How do you join a domain if there is no network connection?
And why would that be foolish? The only people moaning about Windows 11 are tech savvy people, which the majority of Windows users are not.That's one reason. But it would be foolish to believe that the majority of whom has not yet adopted 11 yet are on "incompatible" HW.
I know on earlier versions this was an option, I used it myself, but with the latest installer I freshly downloaded from MS using the media creation tool it was no longer the case.you dont, but thats how you complete setup without internet.
When it asks you to sign into a Microsoft account, use [email protected] for the email, and for the password you can use anything you like. It'll say there's an error and then allow you to make a local account.The join a domain option only comes up at the microsoft account prompt. But the Microsoft account prompt only appears after you set up internet, it wouldn't let me past that.