It is if you're using RDIMMs on workstations. Many of those can handle 2TB these days.Why isn't 512GB an option?
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It is if you're using RDIMMs on workstations. Many of those can handle 2TB these days.Why isn't 512GB an option?
It is nowWhy isn't 512GB an option?
I kind of doubt it. There aren't enough things that require significantly more RAM to do. It's only useful for people doing specific workloads.will 64gb the standard in like... 1-2 years?
I'm thinking sooner than that because win11=more bloat.will 64gb the standard in like... 1-2 years?
Nice! So 512GB total now?Just ordered another 256GB of server ram. Might as well get while the getting is good.
Yup. Got bragging rights now.Nice! So 512GB total now?
Okay you win, lol.I was a startup a couple of jobs ago. My hosts had 4TB of RAM each.
I doubt there is much difference, they are almost the same OS, looking a couple of video testing up to date win10 vs win11, at least for fresh install, ram usage seem the same when not a tiny bit lower on win11.I'm thinking sooner than that because win11=more bloat.
These are home systemsI was a startup a couple of jobs ago. My hosts had 4TB of RAM each.
Like all the versions of windows before it, I'm sure at some point win11 will require more memory.I doubt there is much difference, they are almost the same OS, looking a couple of video testing up to date win10 vs win11, at least for fresh install, ram usage seem the same when not a tiny bit lower on win11.
Running a bunch of different AI inference model from SOC with custom AI capability could be the next shift in ram use for "regular" people, but there is many sign that small specialized 1.5-3 billion model can do a lot... , still 3-7 of RAM used.. if you have a language, personal assistant one that came with the OS running, one for your work and one that is specialized for one or your common activity and do not want to jungle which are active or closed, it could make 64 gig interesting.
Yeah, all these new applications will need gobs of memory to run well--especially when most of the development of this stuff is being done on systems with far more memory than 64GB.
That reminds me of the saying to write slowly to save ink! :-PGive a programmer a slow computer and he/she will write fast programs.
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lol! Probably very true!!Give a programmer a slow computer and he/she will write fast programs.
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Par for the course imo. You should have seen how many people went to 32MB as soon as 98se came out.Interesting that 75% of votes have at least 32GB The 64GB route has been moving up recently, too.
I know, I was therePar for the course imo. You should have seen how many people went to 32MB as soon as 98se came out.
Your gray is showing! LOL! I don't have anything left but gray so I'll let that say it all--we're old, haha.I know, I was there
You don't need no stinken swap file if you have enough memory.O Give Me Land Lots of Land under Starry Skies Above, Don't Fence Me In......
Just created a 128GB swap file in memory just because I could.
OK, just changed it to a more reasonable 4GB which is twice the default size. Should be plenty enough for my needs.
You don't need no stinken swap file if you have enough memory.
The reality is that some programs depend on a swap file so best to have one, but I'd make it bigger since you don't want some dumb program crashing because the swap was too small.
Yep, I think he meant it for fun, but with the stupid requirement of windows needing a swap file, might as well put it in ram vs storage.I thought he meant it was a "for fun" thing. Otherwise putting one on a RAM drive would have no purpose at all, as the system would be better served by just using the RAM directly
Yep, I think he meant it for fun, but with the stupid requirement of windows needing a swap file, might as well put it in ram vs storage.
You can disable it, but some badly coded stuff breaks if you do. I ran into this years ago so I stopped shutting it off.Wait, you can't disable the swap anymore? I've been doing this for decades. If it has been re-enabled through updates, I hadn't noticed.
Interesting. I've never had an issue, but then again, I only use Windows for games these days.You can disable it, but some badly coded stuff breaks if you do. I ran into this years ago so I stopped shutting it off.
It's been several years so maybe it's not an issue anymore. I only use portable software anymore so my OSes are generally not being touched by the programs so maybe it's a non-issue. I just remember something having a fit until I added the swapfile back--might have just been an issue with my xp embedded thin clients as I just checked and they have a 0mb swapfile.Interesting. I've never had an issue, but then again, I only use Windows for games these days.
Probably was a bit true back in the day when swap files and memory were optimized differently than today. It's crazy to think that we've actually got to the point where everything can be in ram and there is no 'storage' and ram, but yet we are still not completely there yet because RAM is still faster than 'storage', but that gap is closing. I guess that's what optane was supposed to be about.I read somewhere that putting the swap file in ram will speed the computer up. Can't prove it by me. May have been true in the Stone Age but not today. But it was easy to configure and it's easy to turn off. Only wasted about 30 minutes at most.
Optane is awesome but RAM it is not. There were some ram-like products for the server space though, but I can't remember what their applications were.Probably was a bit true back in the day when swap files and memory were optimized differently than today. It's crazy to think that we've actually got to the point where everything can be in ram and there is no 'storage' and ram, but yet we are still not completely there yet because RAM is still faster than 'storage', but that gap is closing. I guess that's what optane was supposed to be about.
Ah yes, the NVDIMMs that were supported on some boards. And then there was the Intel Phi chips that had so many cores and memory that you could install and run windows right from ram with their proprietary motherboard setup.Optane is awesome but RAM it is not. There were some ram-like products for the server space though, but I can't remember what their applications were.
I went up to 64GB in my desktop already in 2014 when I decommissioned an old consumer parts server. I had extra slots on my motherboard so I popped the RAM from the server in and had 64GB with no need for it.
I used to run Red Orchestra 2 from a ram disk just so I could join maps faster and prevent noobs who didn't know how to play important player classes from snagging them, losing us an entire map. It was pretty awesome. I always joined maps first.
Nice!Just deployed new mainboard in server. 384 GB. ZFS will be happy.
Just upgraded to a 7800x3d system and stayed with 32gb. Don't see the need for more.